American Redoubt

James Wesley Rawles a very vocal Calvinistic protestant who runs survivalblog.com started the concept of the American Redoubt.  He is encouraging traditional, conservative Christians and Jews to move to the Pacific Northwest in five low density states, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, eastern Oregon, and eastern Washington.  I personally would include Northern Utah in the American Redoubt.  The American Redoubt is a modern approach to an old concept of political and religious migration.  This is nothing new.  At the beginning of our country Protestants Christians of European heritage migrated to what is now the United States to escape primarily non-responsive Catholic governance.  Mormons kept migrating westwards to current day Utah to escape non-responsive Protestant governance.  There are many other historical examples of political and religious migration.  The American Redoubt can be viewed as traditional Christian and Jews migrating to escape non-responsive militant Secular governance as demonstrated by “deep blue” states.

I am adding this link as several people have asked for it.  Here is a very complete look at why these specific states where choose.

25 thoughts on “American Redoubt”

  1. I.ordered the clm book. Can’t wait to get it.

    • The Bard of the American Redoubt said:

      It is a dated book. The CLM is from the 1930, however studying what went on before, and what worked and what didn’t work is a good start to the New CLM.

      • Id still like to read it cuase its my suspicion that from 1890 to 1940 something social went down, to put the breaks on land ownership, other than wars industrialisim socialisim materialisim and urbanisim.

        Something corsed i think

        ppl to abandon cities more than than history says. Searching for social reasons. There was a “mood” or had to be which at a minimum was prob prejedicial too farming,

        And that’s!! What I’m looking for….the 1 percent of that time
        Prob put the cabash on land owners.

  2. I love the site but the historical trend has always been to migrate instead of standing up for what is right and that running away mentality just make problems worse from where one came from and then the problems follow only now larger and more powerful. I live in California and so many people want to run away from the problems instead of fixing them so the liberals only get stronger and the problems get worse. I used to live on the east coast and most everything (good and bad) that started in CA has always tended to sweep across the country… I consider myself to live on the front lines!

    • The Bard of the American Redoubt said:

      Thank you very much for the kind words and comment. I decided to respond in a post, it will be published on Friday. Again thanks for the comments.

    • Thomas Halsey said:

      If you can’t beat the liberals (because you are outnumbered) then you have to go where others like you can survive together and let the liberals drown in there stupidity where they are dominate.

      • The Bard of the American Redoubt said:

        In addition when they come for you, you don’t want to be the only one on your block saying “…this is wrong…” You want to surround yourself with others who have a healthy distrust of the central government.

  3. OK I have been looking at moving to WY – MT would be 2nd on that list, but we are in the situation of no $$ – I mean if we sold everything but our clothes and dishes we might come up with $1,000 so we would need jobs for awhile but we would most definately have to rent, is this worth moving to one of these states to rent in small town in the hopes that we are able to save and acquire our land/retreat before SHTF???? I’m a little worried that if I try to stay where I’m at and save I won’t get out. Though we do rent now and I do have chickens and 2 dairy goats – keep them and stay, keep and go finding someplace rural enough I can have them or get rid of ?? There is no $$ in our situation to relocate well but I want too

    • The Bard of the American Redoubt said:

      This is not an unusual problem, unfortunately. With the economic situation the way it is, too many families are finding themselves in similar situations. Here is what I think.

      1. First pray. Pray really, really hard. Pray like you never prayed before.
      2. Reach out to churches where you are, and where you want to go. Talk to Priest / pastors to see if there are any recommendations.
      3. What can be done, is what you can do, no more, no less.

      I think we should start an American Redoubt job service. I think that Idaho itself (or Wyoming) should really be focused on bring business and people into the state with some form of aid. Texas has organizations that are focused on helping people relocate. However that doesn’t exist so, without structured help I would reach out to churches where you are, and where you want to go and see if you can start making any connections that way.

      Leverage the Internet and start looking for any jobs in and around where you want to live. Also figure out skills you may have that you can use to gain work on a working ranch / farm. It might be a hard deal for awhile, but I think like all things of value in our lives, it will take work, and small steps.

      And do not worry, do not feel like you can’t get to where you need to go. You are aware of the trouble that we may experience. You are ready to make the changes in your life, thus you are not blindly rolling down the road. You are aware and awake, and as long as you stay focused and willing to work torward your goals, I think you will do fine. Work, focus, pray and then leave it up to God.

      • You got big problems your delusionally over looking, once you ppl start doing well up there you start attracting the cycle that began this: gov, corp , hispanics , foriegners.

        For this to to succeed your first step/ is to contact all business leaders/ strike a deal / so long as you don’t sell. You will patronaged by redoubt community to x degree/.

        If not corp will catch wind. And buy small ppl out. Same with ppl born here you should approach companies and say if you hire redoubters we will work for 10 percent less.

        Little by little ? You build incentive and an invisible wall to invadors/ and corp/.

      • Also redoubters can work in the farms and fields for a discount/ or else/ they will sell to the corp./ do you see what I mean/ redoubters have to build an invisible wall incentive wall/ eventually latinos will move up there , explain to me what becomes??? Of you ppl when they do- nothing??. Remember there’s no where to move now except// canada. So you ppl have to begin construction of an invisible wall. The incentive wall. Redoubters would work , for 10 to 20 percent less to thwart the invasion.

        And you would also need watch groups for then they arrive, so you can whistle blow to many ppl living in an apartment.

        Or else ??? …same thing again//

        A redoubter /// working for a discount/// could prevent
        Businesses from selling and hispanics moving in.

      • The Bard of the American Redoubt said:

        Ray, I went over my recommendation to the immigration to the Redoubt in Immigration Part 3 of 3 Immigration and the American Redoubt concept. If places like Idaho and Wyoming keep their welfare benefits low, as I recommend, I think they will attract the right type of people, no matter their race. While we want to ensure a safe area for Americanism as JJS says, the Redoubt concept is race neutral. If you are a legal Hispanic immigrant who is a conservative Christian, loves Americanism and who wants to work you are encouraged to migrate to the American Redoubt. If you have not come here to be an American, then California pays 30% more welfare benefits.

        “The most important thing that the American Redoubt can do is not to make the mistakes that the Police state has made and alienate the entire community nor the mistake of California and be overrun by moochers. We should remember to treat everyone as humanly as possible. Now that rural immigrants from Mexico are few in number ensure you are Americanize them and not allow fully separate Spanish-speaking ghettos to grow. That path leads to L.A. Also the Redoubt states (and rural American in general) should keep government benefits for all, including immigrants as low as legally possible. This will continue to attract the hard-working immigrants (and native-born) while naturally discouraging the free-loader types, less sugar normally means less ants.”

        “BTW, again the ultimate solution is to have a growing dynamic group of American Christians. Abortion is illegal throughout Mexico, contraceptives are legally but culturally frown upon, large families are seen as a gift from God and there is no legal right for homosexuals to marry.”

      • I don’t agree about your comment with hispanics sorry. They are a threat to culture, contenscious. But leave that brid/ge for later. Your first problem is preserving small businesses. And that is redoubters could strike deals to keep soda pops around. Cuase again we gitta guard against this cycle beg all over. Corp are very sneaky, they will use hispanics condos and inflation to raise expenses and close small businesses.

        But if locals had a promise of business so longas they don’t move. It would stop white flight again. Cuase keep in mind. Nobody is stupid. Once they catch wind. Corp will penetrate. Butif locals are well preserved and well patronaged. They won’t leave.

  4. ivan santiago said:

    Greetings Bard of the American Redoubt from NYC!!

    Pax tecum.

    I went to move to the American Redoubt but I’m a copyeditor/proofreader and I was training to be a Spanish/English legal/medical interpreter until that fell through. I doubt my editorial and interpretation services will be needed in the American Redoubt and I’ve learned the hard way about not having a Plan B. Hence, what is the best way to know what jobs are in most need in filling within the American redoubt?

    In closing, thank you for your Web site!

    • The Bard of the American Redoubt said:

      Et vobiscum,

      “Hence, what is the best way to know what jobs are in most need in filling within the American redoubt?” Thank you for the very interesting question, it is so interesting, it will most likely be turned into a post. Let me tell you what you can do now, and what I wish we could do, and the Catholic Land Movement may be the way, in a perfect world.

      Your question prepossess a problem that you may not have. “what is the best way to get a job?” Well, the answer is really, do you need a job? At minimal, do you need a job like you have now? Stay with me for a moment while I walk though this logic. Why do we have jobs? To buy the stuff we need, and the stuff we want. We work, and work, and then we take the cash, and we buy (or rent) shelter, energy, food and water for ourselves and our families. Let’s say you are like the rest of us, you work 40 hours or more a week, your hourly rate is priced at the lowest your employer can pay you without you quitting, the government takes its pound of flesh, gives us the rest, we then buy the services and equipment we need and want.

      The core concept of “going Gault” is that we _work for ourselves_. We stop being a wage-slave, and we stop passing our efforts through a system that takes its pound of flesh from our efforts and only leaves us whatever it feels like. Here is an example, buying a home with the help of the bank, or building one yourself.

      If I purchased a modest (average) home, for my area, say 200K, and I put 10% down and got the rest from the bank, how long would it take me to pay it off? Most likely 30 years, maybe 15 if I am “house poor.” How much would I end up paying, nearly ~600K for the “privilege’ of owning my own home, which I really don’t, I am renting it from the “too big to fail” Bank in usury, and then paying rent to the “to big” government in the form of property taxes, but I digress. 600K and 30 years!

      Now, let’s say you are not afraid of work, and you worked 40 hours for yourself to build your own home, let’s just say for this exercise you could do all of the trades (and there are a lot of them) how many “years” would it you to finish a home? …. Tick, tock, tick tock … the average home is dried in, in 3 months. You could build your own home in 3 months. Lets say to finish it, in 5 months. Costs for a 1,500 square foot home in the Redoubt, less than 150K. Notice, when you buy a home you are paying market prices, when you build a home, you are paying costs + profit. 400K difference, We will say a “simple” man-month is 40*4 or 160 and we spend 5 months or 5*160 = 800. 800 hours divided by 400K or $500 hours an hour. That is what your labor is worth if you can figure out how to build your own home, approximately $500 per hour. What are you doing that is worth so much? And if you could make $500 per hour, how much would the company / state / bank take? The secret is to provide the goods and services you need yourself.

      Thus instead of answering the question you asked “what is the best way to know what jobs are in most need in filling” I would answer the question I think is more important “what jobs do you need done, if you were going to live more independently?” I would say start taking a construction course, start simple, and move to each trade you can. Many of these courses happen at night as they are for guys who are have jobs. Each and every trade you can do yourself is about 50% less costs in building shelter for you and yours. Look at taking a second job that is “cash heavy” like delivering pizza. Thus you have your day filled with working in this system doing your “normal job.” And your nights filled with taking courses on how to build your home and act as your own general contractor and delivering pizza. The pizza monies go into the “my dream home jar.”

      Take whatever courses you deem fit (constructions, mechanic, 4-H), also see if you can take on other clients in the translation business that you can do from a far. If you could spend 80% of your efforts on yourself, with no one taking their pound of flesh, or your wages being priced at the lowest price, then guess what? You labor becomes much more valuable to you. You are not simply giving away 10, 20 or 30% of your labor.

      My answer (a bit long winded) is that build a plan where you do not need the amount of income you have now, that you can get by with a lot less “money” because you will be doing a lot more for yourself. Figure out what types of work you can do remotely or home-based and start investing in those. Get as much cash as you can. Remember moving to the Redoubt initially doesn’t mean move directly to a mythical magical homestead immediately, you may be renting in a decent sized city. I know people who are renting their farms. You take this time to then build more cash reserves until you are in a place where you feel comfortable striking out on your own. I have small house plans that start at 4K (in materials) to build and go up. For that, I get the local newspaper and use my “online skills” to try apply for various positions in the area I am looking for. I’ve applied for one job (perfect job by the way) but was turned down. That is ok, I am not really expecting to find that “perfect” job.

      Now in a perfect world this is how I would organize it. I would first talk to the Amish. That group of people will become the new “Ivy League” in the future. I want to go over my initial idea with them since they _live it_. However how I _think_ they are organized is around x amount of families. Say, 50. I would get a group of Catholics together, and we would all agree that when we reach the magical number of 50 families, we would all move together to x area in the Redoubt. This idea comes directly from the Free State project, where they have if 10,000 people say they are moving. To me, that is much to larger. I say x number of families. Then if you had x number of families, those families would basically be self contained “village.” When you need to raise a barn, you have 50 hammers who will help, when they need to raise a barn, you own them your labor. Your $500 per hour labor because you are not washing it through the current corrupt system. Start getting the skills you need to live. You cut out the middle man, the parasitic, too big to fail usury banks who simply suck all of the wealth from the American people. Now in the time before we move, we all are doing what I recommended to you, taking courses, learning various trades, and getting to know each other. This would make it much less costly and risky to move your family to “parts unknown.” I would love to do this under the umbrella of the Catholic Land Movement.

      The concept is to work as much for yourself, if you don’t have the skills get them. Do not take no for an answer. Move your work to a home based business which you can do from anywhere, modify your life to cut out the unnecessary (still have a cable bill? That is 1.2K a year) and put it to the homestead dream fund. If you want to move now, look up jobs in the local paper, apply for any that you can do well, plan on renting in a local city until you are ready to make the move to your own land. Study the Catholic answer to lazy faire capitalism called distributism and see how you can implement it in your own life.

      I can tell you this. If you continue working “within” the system that we have now, Too Big to Fail Banks, To Big to Fail companies, To Big governments and paying their general store like prices, you will never reach your goal of more self sufficiency and independent lifestyle. You need to make a change, hopefully these are a few ideas on how to make that change and will spark your own path to self-sufficiency.

  5. 64 ECHO MIKE said:

    Thank you for your site. Very interesting and cool. I also wish to relocate to the redoubt. As a 25 year seasened mean carpenter I would love to see and/or help with the monks castle.
    Blessed are the peacemakers.

    • The Bard of the American Redoubt said:

      Well that is great, I may have some carpenter work to do up there. I will let you know. My neighbor (in the Redoubt) is “in the trades.” It is a hard thing to pick up and move, but … I am trying to do it in stages and prepare. Thank you for the kind words.

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