CMTV minions Simon Rafe – Christine Niles – Peter O’Dwyer
It is with great sadness I must report that Michael Voris and his arrogant minions, who were a great voice of reason, has attacked, basically the last popular media outlets for conservative Catholics; The Remnant, the SSPX, the Catholic Family News, and Angelus Press. He attacked these media outlets and the men behind in in particular. He and his arrogant little minions also attacked “numerous blogs” who criticize the Bishop of Rome as he likes to be called I would assume those include Rorate Caeli, this blog Charles Carroll Society, Harvesting the Fruit, among many others. This is what happens when the Lord has given you a significant platform and you use it to attack “random Catholics” personally. If you realize that Michael Voris has attack the progressive faction of Catholicism including EWTN, Catholic Answers, and the National Catholic Register to name a few, which he should, and has now attack the most popular conservative Catholic blogs, it feels like Michael Voris is setting himself up to be the sole “authentic” voice of Catholicism. He has “stated” what he thinks is the proper way to voice your opinion and how to do it. This stinks of pride.
Michael Voris has done exactly what he claims the traditional faction of the Catholic family has done to the Pope, who prefers to be called the Bishop of Rome. He has publicly attacked those he has in the past called a friend publicly. It is stunning to hear Michael Voris accuse over 1 million Catholics, 400 plus priest and hundreds of sisters of a mortal sin. Even the new progressive Grand Inquisitor Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Muller who is very hostile to the Society is very careful about making such an assertion. Supposedly Grand Inquisitor Müller previously (when he was an Archbishop) said that although Pope Benedict XVI lifted the canonical excommunication of SSPX prelates, they remain suspended from the sacraments because “…by their schism they have broken away from communion with the Church.” On 23SEP2014, the Grand Inquisitor Muller, the superior general of the Society of Saint Pius X Bishop Bernard Fellay and Archbishop Guido Pozzo head of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei met. The office of the Pope said of this meeting, “…a cordial meeting took place…During the meeting, various problems of a doctrinal and canonical nature were examined, and it was decided to proceed gradually and over a reasonable period of time in order to overcome difficulties and with a view to the envisioned full reconciliation.”
Unlike the careful discussion between Christian men of good faith (normally in private), Michael Voris has slander the name of the traditional Catholics. He has done it publicly, and he has done it, again apparently without showing an ounce of respect by calling and communicating with people who he has talked to for years, before he “went public.” Bard Note: Yes we reached out to CMTV, with this article for a comment and didn’t get the curiosity of a reply. He apparently works with The Remnant and then attacks it without warning. Christians are encouraged to try to work with each other to build others up. Gossip is a sin. Gossip is not just going behind another person’s back. It is the act of tearing down another person. And doing it without warning, publicly to people you have once called friend? This stinks of treachery.
The Remnant is a glorious newspaper and deserves your support. I support them with free advertisement on my site and I am a subscriber. The Remnant has never “told” me what the “solution” is. It is a newspaper, it just presents you know news and opinion. It does not say “leave your parish and go and join an CMRI parish.” The SSPX are an incredible group of Catholics. Without the SSPX there would not be “traditional Catholicism.” The SSPX is not in schism according to the only people who matter. The Pope and their leadership. I could care less if random Bishops or Cardinals say, for example that Michael Voris is a blow heart, is not catholic and should shut up. Who cares? During these troubled times, people are trying to stay sane, and doing the best they can to try to stay active inside the Church. What individual homosexual, child raping Cardinals and or Bishops say is of limited value. They have an authority over their areas, but outside, you listen to them only as long as their are in line with the Bible, Jesus Christ and Catholic Tradition. Now-a-days you must make that distinction. The SSPX has been told it cannot “exercise” ministries in the Catholic faith. That is not in doubt. And they still do, and they will continue exercise ministries against the order of the Pope. I am sure they pray for forgiveness for this disobedience that they and at times I feel is required to raise our families in the traditional faith. It is unfortunate all have been put into this situation. The confusion brings choppy waters. I pray the SSPX, the Holy Inquisition (CDF) specifically the Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei” are all working diligently to remove this “uncertainty.” BTW Michael, even “disobedience” does not mean schism. If it did 90% of Catholics would be in schism.
Should not we, as good educators, also be capable of overlooking various faults and making every effort to open up broader vistas? And should we not admit that some unpleasant things have also emerged in Church circles? At times one gets the impression that our society needs to have at least one group to which no tolerance may be shown; which one can easily attack and hate. And should someone dare to approach them – in this case the Pope – he too loses any right to tolerance; he too can be treated hatefully, without misgiving or restraint. – Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI
We pray and hope that when the situation of the Society is finally stabilized the Holy Father will do something for the tens of thousands of marriages, and other “ministries” that have been completed by SSPX Priests. In the mean time I will show mercy and charity for these brothers and sisters. Even with that the Pope has not said that the SSPX is in schism. That is also a fact. You know why the the current Bishop of Rome (as he likes to be called) and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI have refused to say their in schism Michael? I do not know, but my guess is that doing so would only push this community further away! Also by Catholic teaching it is questionable if SSPX is in schism. Schism is the withdrawal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or from communion with the members of the Church subject to him. Canon 751. Michael Voris is right some SSPX priest have left. However, what Michael Voris fails to say, is so many more solid men and women of tradition are being formed. Both the FSSP and SSPX have record numbers of young men.
The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. There needs to be a distinction, then, between the disciplinary level, which deals with individuals as such, and the doctrinal level, at which ministry and institution are involved. In order to make this clear once again: until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers – even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty – do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church. Pope Benedict
One paragraph on what we are dealing with, since many of you are dealing with your own evil battles inside the Christian faith. A Priest has told a Catholic woman, who was apparently validly married to another Catholic man, by a priest in a church several years ago, that first they do not need to have their marriage annulled, because he doesn’t think that is right. Second that he will marry them in a church. The local Bishop does nothing to correct this behavior. He has told a visiting parent, in public and in front of Catholic children that he will give the Eucharist to protestants, because he “feels” that is right. The newest Commander of the Knights of Columbus in the local parish is a practicing homosexual with the local priest full knowledge. The leader of the choir is yet another practicing homosexual. He leads the local choir every mass in a Catholic Mass. Again, with the full knowledge of the local Priest. These are what Pope John II called “…silent apostates.” There is no mandate to raise your family among “…silent apostates.” Yet Michael Voris and Christine Niles say the Society is in schism? I am blessed to be able to attend an FSSP parish where I am at. I will have less ability where we are going. Thus, I have three choices.
1. Attend a parish with a heretical Priest, with the full blessing of the local Bishop.
2. Not attend any Catholic services.
3. Attend an SSPX parish.
Don’t tell me “you have other choices.” You don’t know the situation, I do. The church has strangled the growth of the FSSP. The only reason the FSSP has been allowed to open one single church is to weaken the SSPX. The FSSP knows it is being used this way. It is the classic Malcolm X vs. Dr. King. These progressive Cardinals have told the FSSP that they can “work in the mud” but they will never be allowed to grow. They have been clear, they will never raise a FSSP Priest up to a Bishop, and as soon as they have destroyed the SSPX, they will let the FSSP die. All know this. No one is stupid. I have three choices, and, by the way, not attending any Catholic services is a very, very real choice. This is the choice most of my wife’s family has already chosen. You child raping, altar boy girl dancing freaks are a bunch of idiots; call us when you have your shit together. That is why so many churches are closing. Three choices, which one do you pick?
In truth, what you choose is your business, and I will not “attack” you for it. I will try to reach out with charity to you understanding you are making the best of a bad situation. For me? I will choose to associate with the SSPX rather than heresy, and I will beg the Lord Christ to understand why this decision was made. I will do everything in my power to shield my children from evil progressive priest and their contracepting, aborting, homosexual promoting not so silent apostates. My children know nothing of “authority” other than they trust me their father and the local priest and their spiritual father. And I pray that if this is the wrong choice the Lord Christ takes it out of me. I am the father of my family, and I have made this choice. If he banishes us from his sight, then we will all be banished. The vast majority of our books come from Angelus Press, and we subscribe to the Remnant, we support the Society. BTW Remnant can you please produce a Spanish language Remnant?
But you see: if you criticize the Pope, you must do it in a way that meets Mr Voris’ approval. The approval, in other words, of the same man who told you, until the day before yesterday, that you were not allowed to criticize him, period. – Munadabor
Michal Voris a man who we have trusted and looked up too, supported and encouraged others to support has without even an honorable “head’s up” has attacked other people who are struggling to make sense of a terrible situation. This public friendly fire happens a lot in the liberty blog-o-sphere, and it is unfortunate when it happens in among conservatives Christians Internet resources. This hit piece talks about those who believe the Pope is not the Pope, and then goes on to name the SSPX, The Remnant and others. None of these groups are “empty chair” believers and none of them believe that the Pope is not the Pope. This is what the left wing smear groups like the SPLC does, talks about NAZI’s and then mentions your name, intentionally connecting the two in your mind. Even though no connection in fact exist. The SSPX is not the CMRI. This is pure slimy reporting. With insane demon worshiping muslims literally at the door of Rome and the West, their progressive authoritarians a 5th column worming their way through the Church and Western civilization this is what passes for intelligent, well thought out actions taken with full Christian charity? One traditionalist Catholic “order” attacks another.
Michael Voris has done more harm to Catholicism with that one arrogant broadside then he may have thought. It is my opinion that some of the restraint that media outlets like The Remnant has shown is in part because they valued the opinion of Michael Voris. I can tell you plainly that I have restrained myself at times due to my respect of Michael Voris. I don’t agree with his covering for this Bishop of Rome, but hey, why not have pax between Catholics? Michael Voris will never be corrected. He will never take anyone’s opinion of his actions to heart. He “knows” what he has done is right. His narcissistic minion echo chamber encourages this delusion. This stinks of arrogance.
And he does this, during the Season of Lent for Peter’s sake? I have long warned that authorities in the Church will direct you away from the path of life, liberty and defense of Western Civilization. I encourage Michael Voris to at least think on how this was done and reflect on the division he himself has needlessly caused. I also encourage him to read all that Pope-Emeritus wrote about the Society, and not repeat simple gossip. For those unjustly attacked, I encourage you to repair your wounds, stop the pain and beg the Lord Christ and the Archangel Michael for his blessing as you continue to do battle with all enemies of Christ foreign and domestic. Vivo Cristo Rey.